2004 has better M-rated GC softwre -- Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Resident Evil 4, and Killer 7.

I think MGS and RE4 will be well recieved at least.

The thing is GC owners generally favor platform-exclusive content moreso than PS2 or XBox owners it seems.

Plus I just don't see the "crime" genre taking off on the GameCube. Personally I don't think that's bad thing either. I think games ala MGS and RE can sell relatively well, but the GC is still more of a mainstream, family-skewing console, and that's actually probably helping it this holiday season as more casuals are buying their hardware now, as opposed to more of the early adopter nerds.

The ideal "mature" franchise exclusive for the GameCube would be something like James Bond IMO, not GTA. It fits their audience better and is still sophisiticated and cool enough for older players.

Mario Kart did better than I expected, I'm pretty sure it will do just fine in December.

Yeah, considering how being ONLINE is supposed turn great games into killer apps, it's pretty dissapointing for XBox to see PGR2 barely beat Kirby (whose philosophy is Nintendo's "for-all-ages"). But I'm actually kinda glad.

Nintendo is definately right that ONLINE is not mainstream right now. Especially during X-Mas. I worked in a busy retail store, and ONLINE features were an issue at most 10% of the time when it came to console games. While the console on-line base is growing, I'm not sure if that is turning as many console gamers into online junkies as much as it's bringing in PC-Online junkies into console gaming.

Though I agree something like SSBM or Mario Kart can dominate online if they were make it, I'm not sure it would sell much more if they were. While magazines and people in the internet (who obviously can get online) will say that they would sell massive because theycan go ONLINE, the majority of software sales still go to casual gamers/parents/people who won't be gaming on a constant basis...

Just look at SOCOM.... A title made for ONLINE that was selling twice what the online adapter for Sony was selling...


BTW, what happend to KOTOR dominating the holidays... Even with the PC release, I don't think it's going to outsell The Wind Waker like was claimed back when the July numbers came out...

Last edited by efralope on 12-16-03 at 08:31:27 PM

Since the tie ratios of October and November are available, and we know the console sales as of those months, it's possible to extrapolate how many games were sold for each system during November. (Nov total * Nov ratio) - (Oct total * Oct ratio). Due to the non-exactness of each number to begin with, I won't bother giving all digits.

PS2: 10.69 million
Xbox: 3.83 million
GCN: 3.44 million

I'm actually a bit surprised GBA sold only as well as it did. I mean, it's only slightly above last year's numbers, and this year has overall been significantly better for the GBA due to the SP. I guess the $99 SP + game deals weren't a match for the $49 GBA deals from last year.


Another note: at the Yahoo game stocks group, I saw a slightly different set of numbers for the hardware. My guess is it's more accurate, since its GBA number agrees with what I was saying earlier in the thread.
PS2: 849 K
GCN: 754 K
Xbox: 491 K
GBA: 1.323 M


ADDED:
Here's another thing I hadn't noticed before: the percentage of total console shares from each was barely changed from October.

code:

      OCT      NOV
PS2   41.1%    40.5%
XBX   24.1%    23.5%
GCN   34.8%    36.0%

Last edited by JoshuaSlone on 12-16-03 at 08:57:14 PM

I think heavy emphasis on XBL is actually hurting sales of some games. NFL Fever and PGR did great at first but there sequels are doing terrible in comparison.

BeOnEdge2kX needs to edit.

Interesting.. Smith Barney has different estimates. They say PS2 sales were down 34.8% YOY, GameCube were up 77.1% and Xbox were down 1.1%. If that is the case, the numbers would be:

PS2: 859,000 (10k higher than other number)
XBox: 463,000 (28k lower than other number)
GC: 829,000 (85k higher than other number)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videogamestocksgroup/files/General%20reports/SmithBarney-Nov%20Game%20Data.pdf -- link for percentage's source.

I think also perhaps MS' lineup has been overstated in terms of mainstream appeal. It's obviously not carrying them this holiday season, and I think it's actually probably better to have one, big game rather than several smaller scale ones.

The XBox audience also seems pretty fickle with what they cotton to. While on the internet you see tons of discussion about games like Panzer Dragoon Orta, Crimson Skies, Top Spin Tennis, etc. the fact is these games aren't even selling that well, let alone moving systems.

Halo 2 is a no brainer.

But I'm not so sure that games like Sudeki, BC, Kameo, Conker, True Fantasy Online, and even Ninja Gaiden will sell to the XBox audience as big as some people think they will. I'm not sure if they're as mainstream as people think.

PGR2 sales are actually downright stunning considering the amount of commercials MS has put behind this puppy, I've seen the PGR2 ad at least 10 times the past month. For a game like that released during the "money" mid-November period, being a sequel to a hit original, with a large advertising budget... this is almost unheard of.

Top 10 Selling Games for GameCube for November 2003 (Retail Sales $)
Title Publisher Projected $'s Projected Units
1 MARIO KART: DOUBLE Nintendo 25,731,300 $ 527,742
2 MARIO PARTY 5 Nintendo 10,513,050 $ 213,495
3 YU-GI-OH! FALSEBOUND Konami 3,796,675 $ 95,891
4 LORD RING:RETURN KING Electronic Arts 3,784,515 $ 76,841
5 KIRBY AIR RIDE Nintendo 3,426,500 $ 69,311
6 TONY HAWK UNDERGROUND Activision 3,392,970 $ 69,290
7 SW :ROGUE SQUADRON III LucasArts Entertainment 2,893,335 $ 59,851
8 TRUE CRIME:STREETS LA Activision 2,492,181 $ 50,435
9 SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE Nintendo 2,314,935 $ 83,056
10 MEDAL HONOR RISING Electronic Arts 2,208,762 $ 44,859

Quite different from the UK top ten. US tastes are quite different. Where the hell is Need for Speed Underground? Its a good game as well. Olimario must have brought alot of Kirby's if he was the only one who liked it :p

Last edited by Bub on 12-16-03 at 10:06:57 PM

Blimey, took an age getting through so will paste all normal data in one go.

Nintendo

GBA ADVANCE WARS $14,251 1013
GBA ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK $366,806 11737
GBA DISNEYS MAGICAL QUEST $29,358 1297
GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY $1,603,685 54138
GBA F-ZERO MAX VELOCITY $8,736 313
GBA FINAL FANTASY TACTICS $1,793,286 54417
GBA FIRE EMBLEM $2,333,068 75748
GBA GAME & WATCH GALLERY4 $146,647 4816
GBA GOLDEN SUN $44,044 2552
GBA GOLDEN SUN: LOST AGE $396,796 12731
GBA HAMTARO: HEARTBREAK $284,646 10721
GBA KIRBY: NIGHTMARE $1,042,779 33475
GBA MARIO & LUIGI SAGA $3,954,206 135675
GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $9,344,474 327217
GBA MARIO KART: CIRCUIT $947,922 30943
GBA METROID FUSION $325,870 10686
GBA POKEMON PINBALL: R&S $1,920,794 61809
GBA POKEMON RUBY $2,888,368 92784
GBA POKEMON SAPPHIRE $2,538,562 80179
GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE $547,164 18390
GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 $926,206 30816
GBA WARIO LAND 4 $20,425 1107
GBA WARIOWARE INC: MEGA $254,463 8615
GBA YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3 $540,992 17381
GBA ZELDA: LINK TO PAST $742,412 24358



GCN ANIMAL CROSSING $770,970 25252
GCN DISNEY MAGICAL MIRROR $64,214 1684
GCN ETERNAL DARKNESS $104,692 5988
GCN F-ZERO GX $602,888 12345
GCN KIRBY AIR RIDE $3,426,500 69311
GCN LUIGI'S MANSION $1,417,825 75667
GCN MARIO GOLF: TOADSTOOL $993,966 20294
GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE $25,731,300 527742
GCN MARIO PARTY 4 $767,537 17664
GCN MARIO PARTY 5 $10,513,050 213495
GCN METROID PRIME $670,795 23977
GCN NBA COURTSIDE 2002 $39,919 2152
GCN PIKMIN $444,148 22666
GCN PREVIEW DISC $36,422 4401
GCN STAR FOX ADVENTURES $730,838 38038
GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE $1,915,076 67705
GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE $2,314,935 83056
GCN WARIO WORLD $556,714 11970
GCN WAVE RACE: BLUE STORM $112,773 6190
GCN ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER $1,392,530 28603


Microsoft


XBX AMPED 2 $840,729 17415
XBX AMPED: SNOWBOARDING $198,813 10752
XBX AZURIK: RISE PERATHIA $4,408 261
XBX BLINX: TIME SWEEPER $229,539 13304
XBX BLOOD WAKE $76,826 3968
XBX BRUTE FORCE $180,827 16813
XBX COUNTER STRIKE $3,930,359 80694
XBX CRIMSON SKIES: HIGH $1,739,281 35520
XBX EXHIBITION DEMO DISK $7,888 1999
XBX EXHIBITION DEMO VOL 2 $7,861 2345
XBX EXHIBITION DEMO VOL 3 $23,650 4097
XBX EXHIBITION DEMO VOL 4 $1,998 397
XBX FUZION FRENZY $218,338 11075
XBX GRABBED BY GHOULIES $384,288 9866
XBX HALO $4,394,624 161039
XBX KAKUTO CHOJIN $2,724 220
XBX KUNG FU CHAOS $98,970 4974
XBX LINKS 2004 $921,068 18804
XBX MECH ASSAULT $432,929 22853
XBX MIDTOWN MADNESS 3 $235,346 7610
XBX MLB INSIDE PITCH 2003 $92,052 4512
XBX MUSIC MIXER $736,362 18894
XBX NBA INSIDE DRIVE 2002 $3,585 292
XBX NBA INSIDE DRIVE 2003 $58,961 2974
XBX NBA INSIDE DRIVE 2004 $563,256 11372
XBX NFL FEVER 2002 $8,604 494
XBX NFL FEVER 2003 $55,826 4586
XBX NFL FEVER 2004 $687,017 16784
XBX NHL RIVALS 2004 $185,347 3763
XBX NIGHTCASTER $5,694 426
XBX ODDWORLD: MUNCH $62,344 3514
XBX PHANTASY STAR I & II $35,528 1020
XBX PROJECT GOTHAM 2 $3,400,012 70723
XBX PROJECT GOTHAM RACING $586,055 33142
XBX QUANTUM REDSHIFT $18,361 4211
XBX RALLISPORT CHALLENGE $139,421 7264
XBX SHENMUE 2 $42,289 5485
XBX SNEAKERS $17,467 878
XBX TAO FENG: FIST LOTUS $114,447 6201
XBX TOP SPIN $1,415,912 29147
XBX VOODOO VINCE $133,388 3410
XBX WHACKED $21,274 1078



Sega of America


GCN BEACH SPIKERS $15,704 743
GCN BILLY HATCHER $757,459 19216
GCN HOME RUN KING $13,127 779
GCN NBA 2K2 $15,431 1191
GCN NBA 2K3 $48,627 3852
GCN NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 $463 11
GCN NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 $26,849 2233
GCN NFL 2K3 $67,447 6687
GCN NHL 2K3 $4,728 175
GCN PHANTASY STAR I & II $217,390 4817
GCN SKIES OF ARCADIA LGND $42,000 873
GCN SOCCER SLAM $3,518 102
GCN SONIC ADVENTURE 2 $704,773 24781
GCN SONIC ADVT DX DIR CUT $827,411 20952
GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION $499,133 13813
GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL $442,415 22823
GCN SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 $338,801 11600
GCN VIRTUA STRIKER 2002 $5,771 216


NGA PUYO POP $8,456 463
NGA SONIC N $66,277 3347
NGA SUPER MONKEY BALL $22,186 1595



PS2 AERO ELITE: COMBAT $15,982 479
PS2 BASS FISHING DUEL $12,835 508
PS2 ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS $358,708 7187
PS2 ESPN NBA BASKETBALL $1,997,161 40410
PS2 ESPN NFL FOOTBALL $1,070,467 21759
PS2 ESPN NHL HOCKEY $409,935 8872
PS2 FERRARI F355 CHLLNG $7,920 328
PS2 GUNGRAVE $10,740 834
PS2 KING OF ROUTE 66 $6,533 334
PS2 NBA 2K2 $6,015 495
PS2 NBA 2K3 $37,715 1929
PS2 NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 $14,271 710
PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 $67,497 4597
PS2 NFL 2K2 $9,554 752
PS2 NFL 2K3 $348,201 38162
PS2 NHL 2K3 $10,032 646
PS2 REZ $5,420 184
PS2 SHINOBI $53,790 2873
PS2 SOCCER SLAM $7,780 420
PS2 TENNIS 2K2 $8,324 215
PS2 VIRTUA FIGHTER 4 $34,740 3989
PS2 VIRTUA FIGHTER 4: EVO $326,418 17900
PS2 VIRTUAL-ON MARZ $58,198 1169
PS2 WORLD SER BASEBALL2K3 $37,638 1267



XBX CRAZY TAXI 3 $24,670 1217
XBX ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS $520,225 10512
XBX ESPN NBA BASKETBALL $1,232,556 24946
XBX ESPN NFL FOOTBALL $636,484 12961
XBX ESPN NHL HOCKEY $203,110 4137
XBX GUNVALKYRIE $4,636 325
XBX HOUSE OF THE DEAD III $124,681 3073
XBX JET SET RADIO FUTURE $7,921 651
XBX NBA 2K2 $14,653 1335
XBX NBA 2K3 $19,968 895
XBX NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 $9,283 483
XBX NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 $35,972 2685
XBX NFL 2K2 $14,728 1207
XBX NFL 2K3 $38,833 2999
XBX NHL 2K3 $10,878 704
XBX OTOGI: MYTH OF DEMONS $79,991 2035
XBX PANZER DRAGOON ORTA $43,066 1890
XBX SEGA GT 2002 $26,917 1764
XBX SOCCER SLAM $3,773 186
XBX TOEJAM & EARL III $15,329 695
XBX WORLD SER BASEBALL2K3 $33,192 1146
XBX WORLD SERIES BASEBALL $19,920 1473
All Other(KEYFLD) $82,185 3314


Any others on request

Capcom, LucasArts, UbiSoft, Konami...

THQ...

Capcom numbers would be nice. I'd like to see how Joe did.

NFSU for GC

Check out simpsons hit and run as well.

Sure the GCN crowd would like Viewtiful Joe numbers

Capcom

GCN AUTO MODELLISTA $68,454 1752
GCN CAPCOM VS SNK 2: EO $23,950 1266
GCN DISNEYS HIDE & SNEAK $22,125 555
GCN MEGA MAN NETWORK TRAN $123,984 3283
GCN P.N. 03 $85,176 2368
GCN RESIDENT EVIL $38,919 1863
GCN RESIDENT EVIL 2 $18,682 632
GCN RESIDENT EVIL 3:NEMES $61,878 2918
GCN RESIDENT EVIL ZERO $186,314 8405
GCN VIEWTIFUL JOE $1,215,550 31428



PS2 AUTO MODELLISTA $116,487 3917
PS2 BOMBASTIC $16,239 547
PS2 BREATH OF FIRE:DRAGON $58,873 3271
PS2 CAPCOM VS SNK2:MLLNM $4,232 208
PS2 CHAOS LEGION $134,668 3283
PS2 CLOCK TOWER 3 $82,037 4109
PS2 DEVIL MAY CRY $131,172 9249
PS2 DEVIL MAY CRY 2 $164,241 5669
PS2 DINO STALKER $13,158 679
PS2 EVERBLUE 2 $6,962 243
PS2 MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 2 $177,615 4515
PS2 MAXIMO:GHOST TO GLORY $27,211 2663
PS2 MEGA MAN X7 $930,487 23549
PS2 ONIMUSHA 2: SAMURAI $69,805 4130
PS2 ONIMUSHA WARLORDS $49,476 3348
PS2 RESIDENT EVIL CODE: X $97,322 6925
PS2 RESIDENT EVIL: AIM $209,694 5330
PS2 ROBIN HOOD: DEFENDER $92,110 2518
PS2 STREET FIGHTER EX3 $40,731 2055


XBX CAPCOM VS SNK 2: EO $23,614 949
XBX DINO CRISIS 3 $64,313 1384
XBX GENMA ONIMUSHA $13,730 921
XBX GROUP S CHALLENGE $23,464 592
XBX MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 2 $69,564 1758
XBX PRO CAST SPORTS FISH $51,992 1313
XBX ROBIN HOOD: DEFENDER $32,201 807

Super Mario Sunshine must be inching closer to 2 million in the US.

Not bad for a Mario game which IMO Nintendo basically "phoned in".

So much for the PS2 selling 1 million in November.

Kinda surprised that the GC is doing as well as it is, and that it cut the Xbox's lead back to under 1 million this month. Halo's gotta be nearing 2.5 million in the states, and SSBM is on its way to the 2 million mark...

Shocked at the incredibly low PGR2 sales, and a little surprised that SOCOM II and Rogue Squadron III didn't sell more (RSIII's at 170k for two months... That's not that great).

Anyway, like with all the other NPD charts, I gotta dig up my predictions I made from before the September NPDs were out. In bold is what my estimates were closest to:

quote:

---

If Nintendo's ad campaigns and $99 Cubes do well:

September:
Xbox: 154,000
GC: 160,000

October:
Xbox: 214,000
GC: 230,000

November:
Xbox: 460,000
GC: 530,000

December:
Xbox: 680,000
GC: 800,000

Total:
Xbox: 1,508,000
GC: 1,720,000

What will probably happen:

September:
Xbox: 154,000
GC: 124,000

October:
Xbox: 214,000
GC: 170,000

November:
Xbox: 460,000
GC: 430,000

December:
Xbox: 700,000
GC: 550,000

Total:
Xbox: 1,528,000
GC: 1,274,000

---

More N-Gage numbers please!

Disgaea: Hour of Darkness for PS2

I think because Mario Sunshine was part of a bundle, it probably already hit 2 million

Someone's got braggin to do:

GCN LUIGI'S MANSION 75667
GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE 67705

Take that big bro...





GCN LUIGI'S MANSION 75667
XBX GRABBED BY GHOULIES 9866




Ah, well, if one good thing came out of this Rare buy-out for Nintendo fans and ex-Rarefans, it's that Perfect Dark is going to need to sell 10 million copies for Microsoft to make their money back

Various requests

GCN NEED SPEED: UNDERGRND $2,030,843 41176


GCN SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN $1,774,409 36792
PS2 SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN $4,897,991 107856
XBX SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN $1,672,124 34562


XBX BATMAN VENGEANCE $2,590 186
XBX BATMAN: RISE SIN TZU $88,009 2166
XBX CLANCY COMPANION DISC $42,410 15503
XBX DEATHROW $5,063 329
XBX DRAGON'S LAIR 3D $5,388 275
XBX GHOST RECON: ISLAND $629,662 19800
XBX MURAKUMO: RENEGADE $21,538 1164
XBX MYST III: EXILE $9,340 504
XBX PRINCE PERSIA: SANDS $2,166,636 43879
XBX RAYMAN 3: HOODLUM $44,677 2484
XBX RAYMAN ARENA $9,731 777
XBX ROCKY $12,638 664
XBX T. CLANCY'S RAINBOW 3 $6,916,603 140216
XBX T.CLANCY'S SPLINTER $923,368 50877
XBX T.CLANCYS GHOST RECON $906,260 50409
XBX XIII $487,058 9796


PS2 APE ESCAPE 2 $219,138 8797
PS2 BATMAN VENGEANCE $6,451 336
PS2 BATMAN:RISE SIN TZU $322,631 8077
PS2 BEYOND GOOD & EVIL $250,633 5096
PS2 CHESSMASTER $171,984 8067
PS2 CONFLICT ZONE $31,356 1962
PS2 CROUCHING TIGER $112,626 2837
PS2 DISNEY'S TARZAN $12,683 638
PS2 DONALD DUCK GOIN' $3,206 154
PS2 GRANDIA 2 $8,138 411
PS2 JADE COCOON 2 $1,782 97
PS2 JUNGLE BOOK: RHYTHM $167,981 14756
PS2 LEGEND OF ALON D'AR $1,373 77
PS2 MONSTER 4X4: MASTERS $91,820 3145
PS2 MONSTER JAM: MAXIMUM $174,354 8888
PS2 MYST III: EXILE $37,672 2352
PS2 PK:OUT OF THE SHADOWS $14,246 1185
PS2 PRINCE PERSIA: SANDS $2,670,818 54077
PS2 RAYMAN 2 $626 33
PS2 RAYMAN 3: HOODLUM $103,272 5366
PS2 RAYMAN ARENA $50,483 4843
PS2 ROCKY $105,512 5363
PS2 SUNNY GARCIA SURFING $860 36
PS2 SUPER BUST A MOVE 2 $21,248 1370
PS2 T.CLANCY'S SPLINTER $577,716 14877
PS2 T.CLANCYS GHOST RECON $874,031 42357
PS2 XIII $539,575 10912



GCN BATMAN VENGEANCE $36,654 2508
GCN BATMAN: RISE SIN TZU $90,222 2279
GCN BUST A MOVE 3000 $10,005 255
GCN CHARLIES ANGELS $19,612 655
GCN CITY RACER $10,714 268
GCN DONALD DUCK GOIN' $15,333 763
GCN EVOLUTION WORLDS $18,087 914
GCN MONSTER JAM: MAXIMUM $92,527 5629
GCN PK:OUT OF THE SHADOWS $19,021 1038
GCN PRINCE PERSIA: SANDS $780,236 15747
GCN PRO RALLY 2002 $6,215 405
GCN RAYMAN 3: HOODLUM $21,523 1164
GCN RAYMAN ARENA $80,699 5667
GCN ROCKY $49,460 2918
GCN SUM OF ALL FEARS $9,160 432
GCN T.CLANCY'S SPLINTER $180,725 6055
GCN T.CLANCYS GHOST RECON $161,994 7299
GCN TARZAN UNTAMED $33,334 2211
GCN WORMS BLAST $39,088 2106
GCN XIII $139,144 2793



GBC SW EPISODE 1: RACER $18,399 2281
GCN GLADIUS $444,803 8675
GCN STAR WARS: CLONE WARS $405,742 32816
GCN SW: BOUNTY HUNTER $95,635 3613
GCN SW: JEDI KNIGHT II $131,764 4204
GCN SW: ROGUE SQUADRON II $400,109 23629
GCN SW:ROGUE SQUADRON III $2,893,335 59851



PS2 ESCAPE MONKEY ISLAND $1,133 44
PS2 GLADIUS $586,865 11594
PS2 INDIANA JONES:EMPEROR $260,157 8508
PS2 RTX RED ROCK $23,980 2367
PS2 SECRET WEAPONS NRMNDY $844,957 17105
PS2 STAR WARS STARFIGHTER $10,106 572
PS2 STAR WARS: CLONE WARS $258,669 12624
PS2 SW: BOMBAD RACING $1,862 66
PS2 SW: BOUNTY HUNTER $285,161 16075
PS2 SW: JEDI STARFIGHTER $13,561 488
PS2 SW: RACER REVENGE $5,820 349
PS2 SW: STARFIGHTER BNDL $50,968 1310


XBX GLADIUS $734,094 14382
XBX INDIANA JONES:EMPEROR $84,942 2741
XBX SECRET WEAPONS NRMNDY $671,519 13602
XBX STAR WARS: CLONE WARS $85,413 2004
XBX STAR WARS: OBI-WAN $164,807 9400
XBX SW: JEDI ACADEMY $2,402,179 48816
XBX SW: JEDI KNIGHT II $45,929 1295
XBX SW: JEDI STARFIGHTER $18,478 1086
XBX SW: KNIGHTS REPUBLIC $1,057,801 23396
XBX SW: STARFIGHTER SE $36,884 1986



GCN DISNEY BASKETBALL $10,036 255
GCN DISNEY FOOTBALL $5,506 307
GCN DISNEY SKATEBOARDING $42,725 2199
GCN DISNEY SOCCER $11,196 643
GCN ESPN MLS XTRA TIME2K2 $3,668 139
GCN ESPN WINTR SPORTS 2K2 $2,395 273
GCN EVOLUTION SKATEBOARD $23,895 1920
GCN FROGGER BEYOND $56,389 2929
GCN FROGGERS ADVNT:RESCUE $257,639 8635
GCN TEENAGE MUTANT TURTLE $1,546,196 39519
GCN YU-GI-OH! FALSEBOUND $3,796,675 95891



PS2 BLOODY ROAR 4 $256,002 5977
PS2 CASTLEVANIA: LAMENT $2,513,092 54251
PS2 CONTRA:SHATTERED SLDR $62,025 2093
PS2 DDRMAX 2 $1,055,108 26211
PS2 DDRMAX 2 W/DANCE PAD $1,493,639 25354
PS2 DDRMAX DANCE REVOLUTN $227,696 5864
PS2 DOCUMENT METAL GEAR 2 $1,162 121
PS2 EPHEMERAL FANTASIA $1,129 38
PS2 ESPN INTL TRACK&FIELD $436 39
PS2 ESPN MLS EXTRA TIME $2,708 111
PS2 ESPN NATIONAL HOCKEY $1,283 123
PS2 ESPN NBA 2 NIGHT $892 49
PS2 ESPN NBA 2 NIGHT 2002 $5,727 508
PS2 ESPN WINTR SPORTS 2K2 $4,701 398
PS2 ESPN X GAMES: SKATE $6,758 239
PS2 ESPN X GAMES: SNOW $338 26
PS2 ESPN X GAMES:SNOW 2K2 $2,473 75
PS2 EVOLUTION SKATEBOARD $49,321 5499
PS2 EVOLUTION SNOWBOARD $4,801 425
PS2 FISHERMAN'S CHALLENGE $1,211 43
PS2 FROGGER: GREAT QUEST $14,828 775
PS2 FROGGERS ADVNT:RESCUE $438,750 14766
PS2 GRADIUS III & IV $246 10
PS2 K-1 WORLD GRAND PRIX $67,781 2316
PS2 KARAOKE REV W/HEADSET $1,276,815 21441
PS2 METAL GEAR SOLID 2 $92,512 6327
PS2 METAL GEAR2:SUBSTANCE $104,026 3537
PS2 NBA STARTING FIVE $3,435 492
PS2 NFL PRIMETIME 2002 $900 64
PS2 RING OF RED $1,960 95
PS2 SHADOW OF DESTINY $2,001 49
PS2 SILENT HILL 2 $13,091 675
PS2 SILENT HILL 3 $371,442 9334
PS2 SILENT SCOPE $395 20
PS2 SILENT SCOPE 2 $256 8
PS2 SILENT SCOPE 3 $13,033 836
PS2 SUIKODEN III $113,291 3793
PS2 TEENAGE MUTANT TURTLE $2,501,986 64005
PS2 WHITEOUT $3,768 308
PS2 WINNING ELEVEN 6 INTL $82,332 2085
PS2 WTA TOUR TENNIS $2,395 136
PS2 YU-GI-OH! DUELISTS $1,219,732 40888
PS2 ZONE ENDERS: 2ND RUN $50,386 1959
PS2 ZONE OF THE ENDERS $867 75



XBX AIRFORCE DELTA STORM $109,316 3514
XBX BLOODY ROAR EXTREME $12,902 434
XBX DDR ULTRAMIX BUNDLE $780,281 12050
XBX ESPN MLS XTRA TIME2K2 $1,110 58
XBX ESPN NBA 2 NIGHT 2002 $2,144 117
XBX ESPN WINTR SPORTS 2K2 $457 32
XBX ESPN X GAMES:SNOW 2K2 $1,083 89
XBX FROGGER BEYOND $8,913 498
XBX METAL GEAR2:SUBSTANCE $86,852 5792
XBX NBA STARTING FIVE $5,105 412
XBX NFL PRIMETIME 2002 $634 34
XBX SILENT HILL 2: DREAMS $34,273 1732
XBX TEENAGE MUTANT TURTLE $754,952 19316
XBX WHITEOUT $11,277 1010
XBX WTA TOUR TENNIS $1,632 155

I do give Nintendo a lot of flak for the GameCube design, however right now I think one thing they did do right is finally paying dividends -- making the machine for the casual consumer from day 1.

XBox and PS2 are very inefficently made pieces of hardware that caused heavy losses upfront for those companies.

That's why MS/Sony are perhaps more reluctant to slash prices this holiday, because they know this is the peak of this generation and don't want to lose any more revune at this point because basically their economic model requires them to make more money in year 3/4/5 of the console life cycle to make up for heavy losses.

So it seems like by efficently designing the GCN and emphasizing low-cost to performance yield, that aspect of the GC has finally paid off for Nintendo, even though ironically the price gap right now between the GC and XBox/PS2 is actually less than where it was circa fall 2001.

Super Smash Bros. Melee: 1,855,725
The Wind Waker: 1,311,256
Super Mario Sunshine: 1,224,562
Luigi's Mansion: 1,067,377
Metroid Prime: 1,007,944
Mario Party 4: 859,468
Star Fox Adventures: 603,099
Animal Crossing: 567,086
Pikmin: 552,218
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 527,742
Wave Race: 301,258
Eternal Darkness: 243,082
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 231,073
Mario Party 5: 213,495
Wario World: 157,891
Preview Disk: 156,599
F-Zero GX: 152,407
NBA Courtside 2002: 138,498
Kirby Air Ride: 130,894
Magical Mirror: 89,378

The GC has five 1 million sellers, SMS is catching up to TWW. TWW still can break that 1.6 million number (which I predicted way back last year), I think...

SMS probably is a lot higher factoring in the bundle.

The Wind Waker isn't at Player's Choice pricing yet, it will probably see a nice rise in sales when Nintendo places it there (probably by next March or so).

GCN SW: ROGUE SQUADRON II 23629
GCN SW:ROGUE SQUADRON III 59851
GCN STAR WARS: CLONE WARS 32816

XBX SW: KNIGHTS REPUBLIC 23396

So, wasn't KOTOR supposed to dominate this holiday season


crap-ass Rebel Strike and old-ass GameCube Star Wars games are doing some ownage here...

Rogue Squadron II is from like 2001...

I bet KOTOR would have had a fair chance at a million with the Cube's audience...

No way will it outdo The Wind Waker, I can't believe some predictions that were made back in July...